Show Notes

Are We Being Manipulated To Hate Each Other?

This week, Wilk is joined for another powerful conversation with Monica Harris, the executive director of the Foundation Against Intolerance and Racism, better known as FAIR. Monica dives deep into the core of what it means to focus on our common humanity and resist the forces that seek to divide us. She makes a compelling case that discrimination in any form is wrong and that true equality is something we must all strive for.

Monica doesn't shy away from the tough issues, pointing out that the often-overlooked class divide could be the key to uniting all Americans. She shares personal stories and insights from her connections with working-class white people, emphasizing the critical role of communication and understanding.

Throughout this incredible conversation, Wilk and Monica tackle some heavy topics: the distraction of race, the unsustainable debt crisis in the US, and the importance of a colorblind society —not in saying that we should ignore our differences, but in treating everyone equally and with respect. Monica passionately argues for seeing and understanding others on a deeper level, beyond physical and immutable characteristics, and truly engaging with their unique experiences and challenges.

So, get ready to be inspired as Monica and I explore how focusing on our common challenges and experiences can bridge divides and promote unity. 



  • Discrimination in any form, for any reason, against anyone is wrong.
  • Focusing on our common humanity is essential for unity and progress.
  • The class divide is a significant issue that needs attention and can unite people.
  • Communication and understanding are key to breaking down barriers and overcoming division. The conversation highlights the distraction of race and identity politics from more pressing issues such as unsustainable debt and economic challenges.
  • Being colorblind means treating people equally regardless of their race or identity, while recognizing and respecting their unique experiences and challenges.
  • Truly seeing and understanding others requires looking beyond physical characteristics and engaging with them on a deeper level.
  • Focusing on common challenges and experiences can help bridge divides and promote unity among people.

Who is Monica Harris?

Monica Harris received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Princeton University and a Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School, where she served as an editor of the Harvard Law Review. She spent more than a decade as a business and legal affairs executive at Walt Disney Television, NBCUniversal Media, and Viacom Media Networks. In 2011, Harris abandoned corporate life and moved with her family to Montana. She currently operates her own firm in Big Sky, where she services entertainment clients remotely.  Monica is a TEDx speaker, author, and blogger who advocates for balanced, common sense solutions to systemic problems based on our shared values and goals. Her new book, The Illusion of Division, is available on Amazon.

Learn more about and connect with Monica Harris online:

Website: https://www.letsgetunplugged.com/

FAIR: https://www.fairforall.org/

Follow on X: @Monica_Y_Harris

Follow on Facebook: @Letsgetunplugged

Buy the book on Amazon!!  The Illusion of Division


What have you done today to make your life a better life? What have you done today to make the world a better place? The world is a better place if we are better people. That begins with each of us as individuals. Be kind to one another. Be grateful for everything you’ve got. Make each and every day the day that you want it to be!

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